Friday 10 April 2015

IS Saturn and Capricorn really bigoted? My experience they are the least racists?



Oh I can’t tell you how much since Saturn and Capricorn is so much associated with conservatism, traditions, rigid structure (often at all cost), and patriotism that its often bashed for refusing to adhere to necessary change. Indeed among the bashing of their often stereotyped traditionalist nature, Capricorn and Saturn are the two elements in astrology often associated with racists and even beyond that bigots in every way. We are talking about Saturn and Capricorn being socially snobbish (believing one should know their birthmark andcan never go above their class or just because one is an aristocrat, that automatically means he should be provided wealth even if he is wreckless with money,etc) as well as being intolerant of other religions and even anti-LBGT. To go a step father both Saturn and Capricorn are even often stereotyped as being Jingoist to the point of “My Country Right or Wrong” and “NO IMMIGRANTS COME IN and RUin my country!” of sorts of nationalistm.

To the point many people, even those who read complete natal charts often point out towards Saturn’s condition in the chart and Capricorn placements (especially the Ascendant), and 10th house as the explanation why someone is such a bigot who oppose immigration or why a mother disowned her child for being a lesbian and so forte.


Just to see an common example, whenever Hitler’s chart is being read people all to often always point his debilitated being in the 10th House is where he gets such an intense hatred of foreigners and why he was wanted to bring genocide towards Jews and so many ethnic groups. I already explained before why this is so wrong and ignores the cultural and social environment Hitler was raised in but I’ll stop here and just leave him as the prime example of Saturn being associated with bigotry and I even seen people point to his Moon in Capricorn as also being a motivation behind his racist tendencies.


However I have to say from my personal experience as far as racism and attitude towards immigrants and foreign workers, Saturnine people and strongly Capricorn charts are the LEAST likely to be so judgmental about one’s race, nationality, and ethnic background. In fact more often than not, I note its the Saturn and Capricorn people I know irl who get along quickly with foreign laborers and recent immigrants than their counterpart of people dominated by other signs and planets.


This is especially true at the workplace and if said Saturnine and Capricorn people are in leadership position (manager, CEO, you get the point) where some of the people they get along with best and even promote frequently tend to be recent immigrants and ethnic minorities.


I must clarify though I live in the USA so this is coming from a multicultural nation known for heavy immigration and that at least in my country, most of the immigrants tend to be those seeking a better life or desperately trying to escape a burdened past (often many immigrants are both) and the ethnic minorities tend to come from poorer backgrounds and raised in dangerous neighborhoods (and are often the children of the immigrants I mentioned above). Seeing as Saturn and Capricorn are the workaholics and disciplinarians of astrology, perhaps the racism associated with the planet and sign may be negated due to the work ethic of the type of immigrants and ethnic minorities who come here to the USA.


It might be different elsewhere around the world. But even than I studied many historical figures renown to be ahead of their time in race issues with strongly Saturnine and Capricornish natal charts. Robert E Lee is one such example and although he fought for the Confederacy, he always felt slavery was immoral and hoped it would dissolve one day. After the war, in his Church he fought for blacks to be allowed in as equals. Another figure is Napoleon Bonaparte, who while admitting favoritism towards the French, felt merit goes first before one’s national origin. There is certainly controversy over his view towards blacks and the Arabs but taken into historical context, he was far more liberal in his time and at least believed that as far as European ethnicity goes, believe one’s abilities go above one’s national origin or (European) ethnic origin.


The social classes and religion issues are a bit trickier as even I admit the Saturnine and strongly Capricorn people I know believed in class conservatism. BUT in my experience they believe although being born into certain classes grants you intrinsic privileges, it does not give you the right to abuse your class’s inherent rights and it also doesn’t mean you can think of yourself so high as to be a rude snob to people beneath your class. I can’t tell you how many Saturnine/Capricorn people I read in history books who either rose well beyond their starting (poor) classes into the wealthiest people of their day or chose people of all backgrounds as their subjects based on merit if they are an important lord or monarch,etc rather than biasedly choosing someone because theyw ere born a prince.


Napoleon and George Washington are excellent examples of how Saturn and Capricorn are some of the most egalitarian signs when it comes to the social classes.


For religion, my experience shows its more of a product of one’s environment but I seen more Capricron/Saturn people tolerate different religions so long as they don’t threat stability (especially if they also have a strong Jupiterian and Sagittarius influence in their charts).


LBGT is the only area where I’d say Capricorn and Saturn are as bigoted as stereotyped and even than this is more cultural than astrology.


So I’d have to ask if Capricorn and Saturn are so rigid that they’d fight for structure at all cost even willing to spill blood in the process, why do are they least bigoted;in particular least racist?


Does it have to do with the association with the 10th house ruled by career and workplace? That both signs emphasize discipline and work ethic before prejudices about one’s ethnic origin or religion or sexual orientation? DOes it also have to do with both the planet and sign’s fatherly nature and almost undying loyalty to friends thats why they are not as bigoted as steroetyped (going hand in hand with 10th house)?


Why is Capricorn and Saturn so associated with racism and bigotry well in fact people with strong influences from both in my experience are the most egalitarian or at least the most meritocratic?


Honestly I seen more racism from Cancerian people (and I don’t mean to offend you Cancers I’m not saying all Cancers are racists but I notice from my experience Cancerian influence seems to correlate with more xenophobia and traditional “Rick Santorum” conservatism!).



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